Not really; that seat is close enough behind him to be in his draft.
And I really don’t expect to see Fizz in that seat ever. She’s getting old enough to get out of the bakfiets and onto a trail-a-bike developing her balance and learning how to pedal smoothly.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no – one lady in a BMW SUV flipped us off, and screamed at us “you should be sterilized!” when we were tooling along with the trail-a-bike, bothering no one & follwing every single law.
I’ve been known to pull a kid trailer for that exact reason.
Of course, with my sense of humor, I’ve also been tempted to put a toddler-sized manakin in there, sans helmet or outer clothing, in winter, just to get a rise out of the two motorists who seem to be paying attention…
When I have used my trailer to carry my tools to the shop, I always wondered just WHY motorists gave me so much space – I think I know now! Thanks Rick…
I once got to ride alongside a couple on a back-to-back (recumbent) tandem. (Not the one in the video below.) The stoker faces backward, and gets to psyche out following vehicles by gesticulating, making faces, and taking photos/video. It occurs to me that a selection of signs to hold up and maybe a megaphone would be good too. Probably beats a child seat for gaining road space. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2zohUdEXbU
Would Thistle approve though? A real kid who can talk sass at eye level (instead of from below on the Bakfiets) with the drivers would work wonders…or would it?
I saw an odd looking attachment on a vintage bike – a kind of bracket on the front fork and a small one on the handlebars. The owner said the bike used to belong to a farmer, who used them to carry a shotgun. It would have been pointing straight at his head. I said I thought it looked a bit risky, and was told it was very risky because the farmer used to carry the gun not only loaded but cocked for instant use should he find a poacher…
There’s a study that says that drivers don’t see cyclists no matter what they do or don’t do, unless they themselves are cylists. (Won’t. Take. The.Anti.Brain.Protection.Bait.)
Drivers pass closer when overtaking cyclists wearing helmets than when overtaking bare-headed cyclists, increasing the risk of a collision, the research has found.
Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University of Bath, used a bicycle fitted with a computer and an ultrasonic distance sensor to record data from over 2,500 overtaking motorists in Salisbury and Bristol.
Dr Walker, who was struck by a bus and a truck in the course of the experiment, spent half the time wearing a cycle helmet and half the time bare-headed. He was wearing the helmet both times he was struck.
He found that drivers were as much as twice as likely to get particularly close to the bicycle when he was wearing the helmet.
Drivers pass closer when overtaking cyclists wearing helmets than when overtaking bare-headed cyclists, increasing the risk of a collision, the research has found.
Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University of Bath, used a bicycle fitted with a computer and an ultrasonic distance sensor to record data from over 2,500 overtaking motorists in Salisbury and Bristol.
Dr Walker, who was struck by a bus and a truck in the course of the experiment, spent half the time wearing a cycle helmet and half the time bare-headed. He was wearing the helmet both times he was struck.
He found that drivers were as much as twice as likely to get particularly close to the bicycle when he was wearing the helmet.
At least they do in Salisbury and Bristol around 1 individual named Dr. Ian Walker (and even more so when Dr. Ian Walker dons a long wig). Whether these results apply in other cities in other countries in other cultures and with other individuals remains to be seen. But the “study” is not a serious one; it is observatory without controls and with no study of what drivers are actually thinking and whether the same drivers react in the same way to other cyclists without helmets in plain garb, or whether they only react that way to Dr. Ian Walker (with or without a long wig). I’m not saying that it’s not true; just that this “study” doesn’t seem to prove anything. (And, by the way, I rode this weekend without a helmet while wearing “normal” clothes, but usually wear one on my longer rides, just as I usually wear gloves and chamois and sunglasses).
Ideally there should have been a second cyclist alternately riding in front of and behind him and alternating which one had the helmet and the wig and whether the helmet-bare head, wig-wigless was in front. But given that he rode the same route at the same time of day over and over again, I think the results are valid. Repeating it would make a good research project for two people with time on their hands.
That’s only seven replies so far: and two of them are repeats, and I make only the third person to rise to the bait if you count the original post …..
Why not share with Fizz Y?
So sad to see the clap hit the ground in frame 3
That’s going to ruin his aerodynamics.
Not really; that seat is close enough behind him to be in his draft.
And I really don’t expect to see Fizz in that seat ever. She’s getting old enough to get out of the bakfiets and onto a trail-a-bike developing her balance and learning how to pedal smoothly.
Aerodynamics? You’re kidding, right?
It’s true! Whenever I’ve strapped my kids to my bike, cars are always much more curteous.
Of course. It’s the one time that, if they run you down, they can actually expect to feel the full weight of the law drop on them.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no – one lady in a BMW SUV flipped us off, and screamed at us “you should be sterilized!” when we were tooling along with the trail-a-bike, bothering no one & follwing every single law.
That does depend on how you strap your kids to your bike …
or use the strap on the kids
@Pops: Boo!
I’ve been known to pull a kid trailer for that exact reason.
Of course, with my sense of humor, I’ve also been tempted to put a toddler-sized manakin in there, sans helmet or outer clothing, in winter, just to get a rise out of the two motorists who seem to be paying attention…
When I have used my trailer to carry my tools to the shop, I always wondered just WHY motorists gave me so much space – I think I know now! Thanks Rick…
I actually get a little less space when pulling a trailer than when just riding my recumbent. It seems drivers are more scared of my recumbent.
I once got to ride alongside a couple on a back-to-back (recumbent) tandem. (Not the one in the video below.) The stoker faces backward, and gets to psyche out following vehicles by gesticulating, making faces, and taking photos/video. It occurs to me that a selection of signs to hold up and maybe a megaphone would be good too. Probably beats a child seat for gaining road space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2zohUdEXbU
Tailgunner
Its the “Pushmepullyou” of bikes!
How about a human face mask on the back of your helmet?
Maybe backward facing arms and legs?
They do that in India to stop tiger attacks… (seriously)
Did y’all hear it??? A heart just broke….
Would Thistle approve though? A real kid who can talk sass at eye level (instead of from below on the Bakfiets) with the drivers would work wonders…or would it?
http://www.midwestenergynews.com/2012/02/23/sorry-newt-you-can-put-a-gun-rack-on-a-bicycle-too/bike-gun-rack/
I saw an odd looking attachment on a vintage bike – a kind of bracket on the front fork and a small one on the handlebars. The owner said the bike used to belong to a farmer, who used them to carry a shotgun. It would have been pointing straight at his head. I said I thought it looked a bit risky, and was told it was very risky because the farmer used to carry the gun not only loaded but cocked for instant use should he find a poacher…
I guess that explains why that bike was for sale …
Meany! ! ! !
Isn’t Fizz a little old for a kid seat now?
There’s a study that shows drivers giving more room to cyclists in ‘normal’ clothes sans helmets.
(good for at least 10 replies)
There’s a study that says that drivers don’t see cyclists no matter what they do or don’t do, unless they themselves are cylists. (Won’t. Take. The.Anti.Brain.Protection.Bait.)
http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/articles/releases/overtaking110906.html
Drivers pass closer when overtaking cyclists wearing helmets than when overtaking bare-headed cyclists, increasing the risk of a collision, the research has found.
Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University of Bath, used a bicycle fitted with a computer and an ultrasonic distance sensor to record data from over 2,500 overtaking motorists in Salisbury and Bristol.
Dr Walker, who was struck by a bus and a truck in the course of the experiment, spent half the time wearing a cycle helmet and half the time bare-headed. He was wearing the helmet both times he was struck.
He found that drivers were as much as twice as likely to get particularly close to the bicycle when he was wearing the helmet.
(FYI: I wear a helmet)
http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/articles/releases/overtaking110906.html
Drivers pass closer when overtaking cyclists wearing helmets than when overtaking bare-headed cyclists, increasing the risk of a collision, the research has found.
Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University of Bath, used a bicycle fitted with a computer and an ultrasonic distance sensor to record data from over 2,500 overtaking motorists in Salisbury and Bristol.
Dr Walker, who was struck by a bus and a truck in the course of the experiment, spent half the time wearing a cycle helmet and half the time bare-headed. He was wearing the helmet both times he was struck.
He found that drivers were as much as twice as likely to get particularly close to the bicycle when he was wearing the helmet.
(FYI: I wear a helmet)
Love the dropped claps, LOL
At least they do in Salisbury and Bristol around 1 individual named Dr. Ian Walker (and even more so when Dr. Ian Walker dons a long wig). Whether these results apply in other cities in other countries in other cultures and with other individuals remains to be seen. But the “study” is not a serious one; it is observatory without controls and with no study of what drivers are actually thinking and whether the same drivers react in the same way to other cyclists without helmets in plain garb, or whether they only react that way to Dr. Ian Walker (with or without a long wig). I’m not saying that it’s not true; just that this “study” doesn’t seem to prove anything. (And, by the way, I rode this weekend without a helmet while wearing “normal” clothes, but usually wear one on my longer rides, just as I usually wear gloves and chamois and sunglasses).
Oh, and I usually don’t don the long wig as I find it gets caught in my chain.
Ideally there should have been a second cyclist alternately riding in front of and behind him and alternating which one had the helmet and the wig and whether the helmet-bare head, wig-wigless was in front. But given that he rode the same route at the same time of day over and over again, I think the results are valid. Repeating it would make a good research project for two people with time on their hands.
That’s only seven replies so far: and two of them are repeats, and I make only the third person to rise to the bait if you count the original post …..
As for replies – bear in mind that it is a ‘holiday’ (May Day Bank Holiday) and many that may have replied will be away enjoying the break.
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