I thought that the car was going to pull up further (they always do, but then this happened). There was no yelling, no cursing, just a very surprised cyclist, and car passenger.
No audio (it’s a used camera, bad audio, but for $40, I’m not complaining)
No offense, but if you got doored in this situation, it would be much more your fault than the passenger’s. Glad there was no argument and, first of all, that noone got hurt.
I’m sorry, I agree with Birch Creek and I also mean no offence. It’s not a good idea to try and ‘filter’ up the inside of vehicles, better to ‘overtake’ in the middle of the road if you need to (same as on a motorbike). And that car looked like it was stopping for a reason – maybe the car passenger would have been surprised, but the cyclist shouldn’t be.
It might be because I’m a city cyclist, but the old cliche “expect the unexpected” is very valuable. Or, at least, something like “cycle as though the stupidest thing possible is likely to happen.” – expect people to ignore you, expect idiots jumping lights, expect people pulling out without looking, expect passengers randomly exiting vehicles and sometimes expect people to cut you off just because they’re feeling petty and frustrated stuck in traffic. And stay calm and realise that that’s their problem, not yours… general advice I’d give to any cyclist.
Glad you escaped that one – safe cycling, my friend!
If you get doored on the curb side of the vehicle there are few situations where you aren’t at fault. I didn’t see a bike lane there, and (even if your state allows lane splitting) filtering between traffic and parked vehicles isn’t a legal lane split, so the passenger doesn’t have any obligation to check for traffic before opening the door.
Glad that you avoided any problems there, but for safety’s sake, stick to the other side of the vehicles when passing.
Sadly, riding to the right of moving traffic is required in my town. Our bike laws haven’t been updated in over forty years. Since the car stopped in a traffic lane, (with parking to the right) this is as much of a dooring risk here as the traditional kind.
Why ever would you bike up on the right side in an angled parking zone like that? No way they’d expect you and any one of those parked cars might start backwards and jam you between the traffic and it’s bumper. No passenger would ever expect to have to worry about traffic whizzing through so they won’t check before opening the door. I’d put this one down to biker error and give you a whack upside the head with a rolled NYtimes.
Oh, and the van right by the stopped car had it’s reverse lights on and was indeed planning to pull out. Just like the impatient driver who crowds your lane because he doesn’t want to be a split second later, you need to calm down and wait behind cars more often until you can find a safe and considerate way to get through it.
I rechecked the video, the vehicle to my right (a cab) had it brake lights on, not it’s reverse light. What you are think you are seeing was the reflection of MiNewt 600 cordless (which I use for daylight safety) shining, and the video quality. The Drop area, where most people unload, is not directly behind the cabs (the vehicles to the right), but about 20 feet further (where the car in front of the car that nearly doored me was).
In retrospect, I think that the passenger was trying to catch the same train that I was hustling for.
Lesson learned: Leave home earlier, and I don’t have to hustle for a train.
Bikes passing on the right of cars is legal in oregon
811.415 Unsafe passing on right; penalty.
(1) A person commits the offense of unsafe passing on
the right if the person:
(a) Drives a vehicle to overtake and pass upon the
right of another vehicle at any time not permitted
under this section .
(b) Drives a vehicle to overtake and pass upon the
right of another vehicle at any time by driving off
the paved portion of the highway .
(2) For purposes of this section, a person may drive a
vehicle to overtake and pass upon the right of another
vehicle under any of the following circumstances:
(a) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if:
(A) The overtaken vehicle is making or the driver has signaled an intention
to make a left turn;
(B) The paved portion of the highway is of sufficient width to allow two or
more lanes of vehicles to proceed lawfully in the same direction as
the overtaking vehicle; and
(C) The roadway ahead of the overtaking vehicle is unobstructed for
sufficient distance to permit passage by the overtaking vehicle to be
made in safety .
(b) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaken vehicle
is proceeding along a roadway in the left lane of two or more clearly
marked lanes allocated exclusively to vehicular traffic moving in the same
direction as the overtaking driver . (c) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaking vehicle is a bicycle that may safely make the passage under the existing
conditions .
(3) The offense describe
Sorry Yolanda – that car had it’s lights on sure, but not reversing lights, as K’Tesh pointed out.
It has been my practise for decades to overtake any car that has just stopped in the normal manner – on the outside away from the pavement – as I have experienced what K’Tesh did too often in the 1960s and learned the first rule of self-defence … Don’t be there - then you can’t be hurt.
Meh, neither party’s “At Fault”. Just to be clear to all involved the car should have pulled over as far to the right as possible in order to signify dropping off a passenger… but yeah, assume everyone’s a dumb-butt, that’s usually a good idea.
In that bag of holding, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a year’s supply of food, water, and other essentials for surviving the Zombie Appocalypse (except for twinkies)
Always have to be “situationally alert,” as we used to say in the Army. The opposite condition is known as having your head “up your fourth point of contact,” i.e. … well, I’m sure you can figure it out.
Nutz, someone pulled the fire alarm, and I hit send before I could finish… The new Oregon passing on the right law went into effect on January 1, 2006 and provides
“c) overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaking vehicle is a bicycle that may safely make the passage under the existing conditions.”
811.490 Improper opening or leaving open of vehicle door; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of improper opening or leaving open a vehicle door if the person does any of the following: (a) Opens any door of a vehicle unless and until it is reasonably safe to do so and it can be done without interference with the movement of traffic, or with pedestrians and bicycles on sidewalks or shoulders . (b) Leaves a door open on the side of a vehicle available to traffic, or to pedestrians or bicycles on sidewalks or shoulders for a period of time longer than necessary to load or unload passengers . (2) The offense described in this section, improper opening or leaving open a vehicle door, is a Class D traffic infraction
I have a friend that was rather accomplished at catching thrown objects while riding and hurling them back. We got chased quite a distance once because of that skill.
Perhaps Y should get a camera… e.g. Here’s my first YouTube video (uploaded today):
My first GoPro Commute and I nearly get doored…
(This is exactly the kind of thing that made me want a GoPro…)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edv08nOUCSQ&context=C468b8dbADvjVQa1PpcFNNDf9ojX67hNh9Tvk736HnDvBUw0WknEU=
I thought that the car was going to pull up further (they always do, but then this happened).
There was no yelling, no cursing, just a very surprised cyclist, and car passenger.
No audio (it’s a used camera, bad audio, but for $40, I’m not complaining)
Be Careful Out There.
No offense, but if you got doored in this situation, it would be much more your fault than the passenger’s. Glad there was no argument and, first of all, that noone got hurt.
I’m sorry, I agree with Birch Creek and I also mean no offence. It’s not a good idea to try and ‘filter’ up the inside of vehicles, better to ‘overtake’ in the middle of the road if you need to (same as on a motorbike). And that car looked like it was stopping for a reason – maybe the car passenger would have been surprised, but the cyclist shouldn’t be.
It might be because I’m a city cyclist, but the old cliche “expect the unexpected” is very valuable. Or, at least, something like “cycle as though the stupidest thing possible is likely to happen.” – expect people to ignore you, expect idiots jumping lights, expect people pulling out without looking, expect passengers randomly exiting vehicles and sometimes expect people to cut you off just because they’re feeling petty and frustrated stuck in traffic. And stay calm and realise that that’s their problem, not yours… general advice I’d give to any cyclist.
Glad you escaped that one – safe cycling, my friend!
If you get doored on the curb side of the vehicle there are few situations where you aren’t at fault. I didn’t see a bike lane there, and (even if your state allows lane splitting) filtering between traffic and parked vehicles isn’t a legal lane split, so the passenger doesn’t have any obligation to check for traffic before opening the door.
Glad that you avoided any problems there, but for safety’s sake, stick to the other side of the vehicles when passing.
FYI, it may not be legal in your state, but bicycles are explicitly allowed to ride to the right of moving traffic in Massachusetts.
I personally choose not to filter at all, but it’s legal in some states.
Sadly, riding to the right of moving traffic is required in my town. Our bike laws haven’t been updated in over forty years. Since the car stopped in a traffic lane, (with parking to the right) this is as much of a dooring risk here as the traditional kind.
That’s “nearly”? I won’t even notice something like that, it happens all the time in NYC
Why ever would you bike up on the right side in an angled parking zone like that? No way they’d expect you and any one of those parked cars might start backwards and jam you between the traffic and it’s bumper. No passenger would ever expect to have to worry about traffic whizzing through so they won’t check before opening the door. I’d put this one down to biker error and give you a whack upside the head with a rolled NYtimes.
Oh, and the van right by the stopped car had it’s reverse lights on and was indeed planning to pull out. Just like the impatient driver who crowds your lane because he doesn’t want to be a split second later, you need to calm down and wait behind cars more often until you can find a safe and considerate way to get through it.
I rechecked the video, the vehicle to my right (a cab) had it brake lights on, not it’s reverse light. What you are think you are seeing was the reflection of MiNewt 600 cordless (which I use for daylight safety) shining, and the video quality. The Drop area, where most people unload, is not directly behind the cabs (the vehicles to the right), but about 20 feet further (where the car in front of the car that nearly doored me was).
In retrospect, I think that the passenger was trying to catch the same train that I was hustling for.
Lesson learned: Leave home earlier, and I don’t have to hustle for a train.
Bikes passing on the right of cars is legal in oregon
811.415 Unsafe passing on right; penalty.
(1) A person commits the offense of unsafe passing on
the right if the person:
(a) Drives a vehicle to overtake and pass upon the
right of another vehicle at any time not permitted
under this section .
(b) Drives a vehicle to overtake and pass upon the
right of another vehicle at any time by driving off
the paved portion of the highway .
(2) For purposes of this section, a person may drive a
vehicle to overtake and pass upon the right of another
vehicle under any of the following circumstances:
(a) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if:
(A) The overtaken vehicle is making or the driver has signaled an intention
to make a left turn;
(B) The paved portion of the highway is of sufficient width to allow two or
more lanes of vehicles to proceed lawfully in the same direction as
the overtaking vehicle; and
(C) The roadway ahead of the overtaking vehicle is unobstructed for
sufficient distance to permit passage by the overtaking vehicle to be
made in safety .
(b) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaken vehicle
is proceeding along a roadway in the left lane of two or more clearly
marked lanes allocated exclusively to vehicular traffic moving in the same
direction as the overtaking driver .
(c) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaking vehicle
is a bicycle that may safely make the passage under the existing
conditions .
(3) The offense describe
Sorry Yolanda – that car had it’s lights on sure, but not reversing lights, as K’Tesh pointed out.
It has been my practise for decades to overtake any car that has just stopped in the normal manner – on the outside away from the pavement – as I have experienced what K’Tesh did too often in the 1960s and learned the first rule of self-defence … Don’t be there - then you can’t be hurt.
Meh, neither party’s “At Fault”. Just to be clear to all involved the car should have pulled over as far to the right as possible in order to signify dropping off a passenger… but yeah, assume everyone’s a dumb-butt, that’s usually a good idea.
In that bag of holding, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a year’s supply of food, water, and other essentials for surviving the Zombie Appocalypse (except for twinkies)
The zombies are already here. They’re the ones driving the cars…..
Let yee without sin cast the first apple…
Always have to be “situationally alert,” as we used to say in the Army. The opposite condition is known as having your head “up your fourth point of contact,” i.e. … well, I’m sure you can figure it out.
Nutz, someone pulled the fire alarm, and I hit send before I could finish…
The new Oregon passing on the right law went into effect on January 1, 2006 and provides
“c) overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaking vehicle is a bicycle that may safely make the passage under the existing conditions.”
811.490 Improper opening or leaving open of vehicle door; penalty.
(1) A person commits the offense of improper opening or leaving open a vehicle
door if the person does any of the following:
(a) Opens any door of a vehicle unless and until it is reasonably safe to do so
and it can be done without interference with the movement of traffic, or
with pedestrians and bicycles on sidewalks or shoulders .
(b) Leaves a door open on the side of a vehicle available to traffic, or to
pedestrians or bicycles on sidewalks or shoulders for a period of time
longer than necessary to load or unload passengers .
(2) The offense described in this section, improper opening or leaving open a
vehicle door, is a Class D traffic infraction
I have a friend that was rather accomplished at catching thrown objects while riding and hurling them back. We got chased quite a distance once because of that skill.