The Portland, ME library got a complete renovation last year. The first time I went in afterwards, I was very impressed: new furniture, tons of computers, community room, video room, children’s… on and on. It was beautiful. But after I’d finished taking it all in, I went up to the desk and said, “Everything is just lovely, but I have to ask you: where are the *books*?” I meant it. “Oh, those are down back,” he said, pointing over his shoulder. [rolls eyes]
The library in Hoover, Alabama has a very attractive facility, with a theater, cafe, lots of computer access in areas geared toward different age groups, a “technology-free” area where people can go to read or study free from the sound of cell phones and the clattering of keyboards, a “cone of silence” where cell phones can be used without disturbing anyone, a large collection of audiobooks on a wide range of topics (including archaeology and ancient history — my favorites!), and lots and lots of books, all arranged in a very attractive and innovative floorplan that resembles the exhibit halls of a modern museum more than a traditional library building. But it suffers one flaw — the lamentable tendency of many libraries to arrange books in topical displays rather than strictly following the Dewey Decimal (or Library of Congress) Classification call number order. It’s very frustrating to look something up in the catalogue, go to what appears to be the correct section of the library, then find that the books in a whole range of DDC call numbers have been moved to their own special section somewhere else in the library. If a room says it contains the 400s through 600s, I don’t expect to find part of the 500s stuck somewhere in another part of the building! I really miss the days when the 000s were at one end, the 999s were at the other end, and everything else was in the appropriate (and predictable) order in between. As a former librarian I rather pride myself on being able to find my way around libraries, and it’s annoying to have to bother the staff about finding something, especially when its location should have been obvious from its call number. But at least there still are plenty of real, tangible books on the shelves, right in the middle of all the technology.
@ Widsith: I think it’s the influence of Barnes & Noble/Borders. Even fans of LBS (Locally-owned BookSellers) have to appreciate the success of these big chains at promoting book-buying. They organize books topically, which does make it harder to find a specific book, but facilitates browsing. I assume the system is market-driven – the books are arranged in a way that maximizes sales. And their bookstores are the kind of place people want to go to. Makes sense to model the local library on a successful model.
Incidentally, does anyone read posts this late after the comic ran???
You’re probably right. I get frustrated sometimes at Barnes & Noble too, though not as much because I expect to have to do some guesswork in locating things there. The library has a very good, efficient organizational method with the catalogue and DDC numbers, though, so it’s more frustrating not to be able to depend on it at times.
I’ve sometimes gotten emailed replies to my comments months after a comic ran, so people do appear to read the older comments now and then.
It’s a reference to the blog Bike Snob NYC, a particularly witty bike blogger that just rambles and rambles endlessly. As funny as he is I just can’t read his posts anymore. They just go nowhere. It’s like listening to a really witty and smart schizophrenic who won’t shut up: there are gems everywhere but listening (or reading) is exhausting.
I don’t think he’s actually snobbish at all; but he does make fun of absolutely everybody and everyone is guaranteed to eventually feel slighted by his remarks. I know I’ve felt zinged a couple times reading him, and good for him for doing that.
What keeps me from returning is that none of his posts conclude or go anywhere. After you read 4000 words or rambling, oftentimes hilarious nonsense, his posts always just peter out like they ran out of batteries.
My problem with his blog is the language he often uses. I can see only so many examples of foul language before my distaste for it overwhelms any pleasure I might otherwise take in whatever I’m reading. Recently I read an interview with him about the book he wrote, and even in the interview he couldn’t keep his language clean, which just reminded me of why I don’t read his blog.
But not in most of the places where I spend most of my time. I can go weeks without encountering it except perhaps on TV or in something posted someplace like here. Face-to-face encounters with people using such language are rare for me.
If you click on the last panel of the strip, you’ll be diverted to Bike Snob NYC – so that’s what Rick is referring to here. And yes, while most of his posts are rubbish, some are great! I loved the ‘salmon’ post.
Ha ha! Now that link within the strip is a new one on me. Does it count as a sumliminal message (like playing Led Zep LPs backwards. Or was it AC/DC? Whatever.), or is it just easier than a whole written explanation within the strip – if a picture paints a thousand words, is a hyperlink the rest of them?
@Rick Smith: I’d love to see the Easter Egg links and other off-site links open in a new tab or a new window. The current method replaces the current page with the linked page. I have my scroll-wheel button set to open links in a new tab, but embedding this behavior in the link keeps your page open and, to my mind, simplifies browsing.
With Internet Explorer 8 I right click and can open in a ‘tab’ or new window. On my iPad, I open and read then use the ‘back’ button. IE is best for me.
@Tencon, on your iPad, try holding your finger on the link for a second or two until a window comes up with the option to open in a new window. Works on my iTouch anyway.
Hi Rick,
I never guessed there were links hidden behind your pictures until I read your explanation.
How will you handle that thing in your upcomming books?
Do the links in older cartoons still work?
BSNYC posts don’t NEED to go anywhere. They continue right into the next day, into the next day, into the next, and so on. Similar to a comic strip he writes an ongoing piece, albeit a diatribe of text not drawings.
Neither do the disassociative ramblings of the homeless people in the street. They continue right into the next day, into the next day, into the next, and so on too.
this is where i disagree with his character as I imagine it and as it is portrayed here sometimes,
as much as I enjoy the internet and ‘updates’ from sites like this or bikesnobnyc when i am out ridding in a beautiful countryside alone the internet is the furthest thing from my mind… its part of what makes ridding so beautiful, even 2 miles once you have left the city behind feel infinite. You dont need to suffer or live weeks cut off from society to feel the freedom.
to me yehuda is still that one comic where the motorist drives by concerned about him ridding in the snow and offers a ride and he responds “and miss this!!” when you ride your bike, the escape is nearly instanious, you dont need to be miles from home
That’s the comic I have the page saved too. Love that one. Of course forgetting to get cat food yesterday sets me to head to the grocery at 6 in the morning…. not sure I would choose winter to take off on a tour.
IPhone is too trendy for me too. I even refused to get a regular cell phone until October 2008, and then only so I could keep in touch easily with a friend who was in the hospital for cancer surgery.
If you try to ignore all the marketing and hoopla and all the love and hatred, the fanboism, flamewars and controversies around the iPhone and just take it as it is, it’s actually a very useful device. In particular iPhone 4 with its new camera and HDR, it may be all one needs on a tour.
It’s useful, it’s just expensive, overhypedm and neither the first nor the best PDA/smartphone on the market (even PalmOS 4 and Windows Mobile 5 were better than the earlier versions of iPhone). That until iOS 4 you had to jailbreak it to make it as useful as my 7 year old Palm Tungsten is telling.
The camera is not too bad for a cameraphone, but it’s crap for a camera.
I’m not so sure, lots of retrogrouches are selective in what they are retro about, so you get one who will refuse to use anything newer in bicycle technology then an S/A 3 speed hub with coaster brake on the rear and rod brake on the fronts, but has the latest in netbook computers, because it fits their needs.
Like Grant Peterson types that don’t so much prefer older technology, and may not even be familiar with old technology, but love the old timey romanticism and like to pretend that romanticism is somehow mechanically superior? We know they’re all on 4G networks.
That describes me — except that I’m on a GSM network. I like new computer hardware technology, but prefer old software (Unix and its clones like Linux are my all-time favorite operating systems) and old bikes. Heck, I’m even nostalgic for CP/M sometimes, and still have an old system that runs it packed away somewhere. My favorite programmable calculators? HP16C (1982), HP-41CX (1984) and HP-48GX (1996). I even have a collection of slide rules that I use on occasion.
I ride fixed gear almost exclusively. When I run geared it’s friction shifting and 7-speed freewheels. My cameras are 35mm. I like my steaks grilled on charcoal and my Bourbon neat. And I haven’t the slightest notion of this 4G whoosamafudge of which you speak.
What is this newfangled 7-speed freewheel of which you speak? Back when I was a kid, we had FIVE, and we were grateful. And every nation had their own special bottom bracket threading.
I only found out about 5 speed hubs after my heart attack in 2006!
Until then, it was 3sp SA and 5sp derailleur.
Okay, after I ‘died’ my wife advised me to help a charity bike shop as I used to repair bikes apparently! I had lost all my memories, but working there and reading this strip has awakened most of my memories. Thanks Rick and everybody. I really appreciate the help. Keep up the good work… I am finally learning how to relate to people after a life of OCD and Dyslexic problems and the technical advice and WWW hints etc invaluable. Happy Xmas to all
Doc, you can’t hardly get five speed freewheels anymore, and I like a 34 tooth big cog. You’re looking at 7 speed for those. Hell, five out back would suit me fine if I could get my bailout gear. And keep in mind, I mostly ride fixed anyway. But I figure if I’m gonna run gears I want every advantage they can give me.
That’s why I am having a NuVinci and a Schlumpf on my Trandem. 6″ to 90″ in two ranges. Each range infinite,
That is IF the builder can get 22/40t CWs onto the Schlumpf working! 2-up we can pull like you do on your fixie, but alone I need to be able to get a heavy load up a few steep hills so the Mountain Drive gives me the option of a low gear that I can spin, slowly, without falling over (trike) 2011 looks like a very interesting time for us.
When I was 15 years old, dinosaurs roamed the earth and I bought a 5-speed Schwinn. Electro-forged in their Chicago factory.
I’ve still got the Schwinn and it works just fine, thank you. I still use it when going places that I really don’t want to lock up the Pashley overnight.
I gave up chasing every new technology gnome many moons ago. Too damn expensive and not all that satisfying. I’m still upset over Kodak discontinuing Kodachrome (my last two rolls are in the soon to close process queue at Dwayne’s Photo <http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/> . Other bad habits: analog vinyl, books (paper- and hard-back), hand-written letters, WinXP, and my ’97 T-Bird.
I’m with Yann. I don’t think this is consistent with Yehuda’s character. He would consistently put Real Life ahead of the Internet and cycling ahead of almost everything else in Real Life.
Although I think that he is the sort that would read Yehuda Moon on the Internet.
For example, my reality is heavy %^#$@!! snow right now and a weather forecast for this week that has the daily highs in negative numbers every day.
By dint of ploughing and salting the roads, they remain free of ice and snow. So I’m still cycling to work every day. But that doesn’t mean that I like winter. Three months until spring…
Bike Snob NYC sits in my RSS reader. I used to let 2 or 3 collect before trying to slog through them. Then 5 or 6… 12 or 13…
Eventually the tally would go up to 25 or so before I would mark them as read without bothering to read them. I just checked, my Bike Snob feed unreads are are now at 14. Time to remove that feed.
Yehuda sounds like me every time I head out for church early on a cold Sunday morning. For the first mile or so of my 13.5-mile journey, I’m thinking, “If I turn back now, I can get a ride with my son and daughter-in-law.” But then I get warmed up nicely and think, “I wouldn’t trade this ride for any other kind of transportation.” Last week I got to ride through a perfect snowfall both there and back — the air around me was filled with beautiful snowflakes, but none of it stuck to the ground so I was able to ride as I would on any other day without worrying about slippery roads.
Internet addiction? Check at the next town’s library.
Library? Weren’t those replaced by the Internet?
“Library? Weren’t those replaced by the Internet?”
No, no, no.
The book shelves at the library have been replaced by computer terminal stations so that folk can go browse the internet.
The Portland, ME library got a complete renovation last year. The first time I went in afterwards, I was very impressed: new furniture, tons of computers, community room, video room, children’s… on and on. It was beautiful. But after I’d finished taking it all in, I went up to the desk and said, “Everything is just lovely, but I have to ask you: where are the *books*?” I meant it. “Oh, those are down back,” he said, pointing over his shoulder. [rolls eyes]
There’s still a lot of books being written and sold, more than ever really if one takes into account the online sales so, where are those readers ?
There still are plenty of readers out here. We just don’t get noticed because we’re so quiet.
The library in Hoover, Alabama has a very attractive facility, with a theater, cafe, lots of computer access in areas geared toward different age groups, a “technology-free” area where people can go to read or study free from the sound of cell phones and the clattering of keyboards, a “cone of silence” where cell phones can be used without disturbing anyone, a large collection of audiobooks on a wide range of topics (including archaeology and ancient history — my favorites!), and lots and lots of books, all arranged in a very attractive and innovative floorplan that resembles the exhibit halls of a modern museum more than a traditional library building. But it suffers one flaw — the lamentable tendency of many libraries to arrange books in topical displays rather than strictly following the Dewey Decimal (or Library of Congress) Classification call number order. It’s very frustrating to look something up in the catalogue, go to what appears to be the correct section of the library, then find that the books in a whole range of DDC call numbers have been moved to their own special section somewhere else in the library. If a room says it contains the 400s through 600s, I don’t expect to find part of the 500s stuck somewhere in another part of the building! I really miss the days when the 000s were at one end, the 999s were at the other end, and everything else was in the appropriate (and predictable) order in between. As a former librarian I rather pride myself on being able to find my way around libraries, and it’s annoying to have to bother the staff about finding something, especially when its location should have been obvious from its call number. But at least there still are plenty of real, tangible books on the shelves, right in the middle of all the technology.
@ Widsith: I think it’s the influence of Barnes & Noble/Borders. Even fans of LBS (Locally-owned BookSellers) have to appreciate the success of these big chains at promoting book-buying. They organize books topically, which does make it harder to find a specific book, but facilitates browsing. I assume the system is market-driven – the books are arranged in a way that maximizes sales. And their bookstores are the kind of place people want to go to. Makes sense to model the local library on a successful model.
Incidentally, does anyone read posts this late after the comic ran???
You’re probably right. I get frustrated sometimes at Barnes & Noble too, though not as much because I expect to have to do some guesswork in locating things there. The library has a very good, efficient organizational method with the catalogue and DDC numbers, though, so it’s more frustrating not to be able to depend on it at times.
I’ve sometimes gotten emailed replies to my comments months after a comic ran, so people do appear to read the older comments now and then.
yes
Push through it, Yehuda. You have to sleep in the snow to go full circle.
To paraphrase Macbeth: “I am in snow pedaled so far that, were I to pedal no more, to return would be as tedious as to go o’re.”
Act III, Scene 4. I knew watching “Megaforce” repeatedly would be good for something one day. Nice paraphrase, John!
My guess is that Yehuda thinks of Joe as ‘The Snob’ and wants to know how the shop is progressing, since his plans got rejected!
Pretty sure he means BSNYC (Bike Snob NYC)
It’s a reference to the blog Bike Snob NYC, a particularly witty bike blogger that just rambles and rambles endlessly. As funny as he is I just can’t read his posts anymore. They just go nowhere. It’s like listening to a really witty and smart schizophrenic who won’t shut up: there are gems everywhere but listening (or reading) is exhausting.
I see what you mean!
I never found him particularly witty, just snobbish. FAIL.
I don’t think he’s actually snobbish at all; but he does make fun of absolutely everybody and everyone is guaranteed to eventually feel slighted by his remarks. I know I’ve felt zinged a couple times reading him, and good for him for doing that.
What keeps me from returning is that none of his posts conclude or go anywhere. After you read 4000 words or rambling, oftentimes hilarious nonsense, his posts always just peter out like they ran out of batteries.
My problem with his blog is the language he often uses. I can see only so many examples of foul language before my distaste for it overwhelms any pleasure I might otherwise take in whatever I’m reading. Recently I read an interview with him about the book he wrote, and even in the interview he couldn’t keep his language clean, which just reminded me of why I don’t read his blog.
Eff ‘em if they can’t take a joke, I always say.
The modern world must be so difficult for you, as unclean language is commonly accepted and unremarkable in most places in my experience.
But not in most of the places where I spend most of my time. I can go weeks without encountering it except perhaps on TV or in something posted someplace like here. Face-to-face encounters with people using such language are rare for me.
Poo Bum Wee
If you click on the last panel of the strip, you’ll be diverted to Bike Snob NYC – so that’s what Rick is referring to here. And yes, while most of his posts are rubbish, some are great! I loved the ‘salmon’ post.
Dave Moulton’s blog is great reading too.
Ha ha! Now that link within the strip is a new one on me. Does it count as a sumliminal message (like playing Led Zep LPs backwards. Or was it AC/DC? Whatever.), or is it just easier than a whole written explanation within the strip – if a picture paints a thousand words, is a hyperlink the rest of them?
We’ve done this with a bunch of strips in the last six months. Most folks don’t see the links so we get lazy about placing them. We should do more.
I didn’t know until reading this – just read the link posted by someone.
I should pay more attention! Thanks for the content Rick.
@Rick Smith: I’d love to see the Easter Egg links and other off-site links open in a new tab or a new window. The current method replaces the current page with the linked page. I have my scroll-wheel button set to open links in a new tab, but embedding this behavior in the link keeps your page open and, to my mind, simplifies browsing.
KUTGW!
With Internet Explorer 8 I right click and can open in a ‘tab’ or new window. On my iPad, I open and read then use the ‘back’ button. IE is best for me.
@Tencon, on your iPad, try holding your finger on the link for a second or two until a window comes up with the option to open in a new window. Works on my iTouch anyway.
The right-click options for a new tab or window work in Firefox as well.
Hi Rick,
I never guessed there were links hidden behind your pictures until I read your explanation.
How will you handle that thing in your upcomming books?
Do the links in older cartoons still work?
BSNYC posts don’t NEED to go anywhere. They continue right into the next day, into the next day, into the next, and so on. Similar to a comic strip he writes an ongoing piece, albeit a diatribe of text not drawings.
Neither do the disassociative ramblings of the homeless people in the street. They continue right into the next day, into the next day, into the next, and so on too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/oct/24/bike-snobs-guide-cycling-tribes
this is where i disagree with his character as I imagine it and as it is portrayed here sometimes,
as much as I enjoy the internet and ‘updates’ from sites like this or bikesnobnyc when i am out ridding in a beautiful countryside alone the internet is the furthest thing from my mind… its part of what makes ridding so beautiful, even 2 miles once you have left the city behind feel infinite. You dont need to suffer or live weeks cut off from society to feel the freedom.
to me yehuda is still that one comic where the motorist drives by concerned about him ridding in the snow and offers a ride and he responds “and miss this!!” when you ride your bike, the escape is nearly instanious, you dont need to be miles from home
What are you ridding yourself of while you are riding?
Endless list if you’re anything like me.
That’s the comic I have the page saved too. Love that one. Of course forgetting to get cat food yesterday sets me to head to the grocery at 6 in the morning…. not sure I would choose winter to take off on a tour.
Nice shout out to BSNYC! No hyperlink though?
Easy: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/
I can’t read it from work. : (
Fixed – woke up late.
6:47 AM is late? What time do you consider getting up early?
08:00am in the UK when the new comic comes on line!
Here in Alabama it’s 2:00 AM when the new one arrives.
iPhone. Problem solved.
iPhone for Yehuda?! I think he reads the internet by carrier pigeon.
IPhone is too trendy for Yehuda. He still uses a crystal radio afterall.
IPhone is too trendy for me too. I even refused to get a regular cell phone until October 2008, and then only so I could keep in touch easily with a friend who was in the hospital for cancer surgery.
If you try to ignore all the marketing and hoopla and all the love and hatred, the fanboism, flamewars and controversies around the iPhone and just take it as it is, it’s actually a very useful device. In particular iPhone 4 with its new camera and HDR, it may be all one needs on a tour.
It’s useful, it’s just expensive, overhypedm and neither the first nor the best PDA/smartphone on the market (even PalmOS 4 and Windows Mobile 5 were better than the earlier versions of iPhone). That until iOS 4 you had to jailbreak it to make it as useful as my 7 year old Palm Tungsten is telling.
The camera is not too bad for a cameraphone, but it’s crap for a camera.
I’m not so sure, lots of retrogrouches are selective in what they are retro about, so you get one who will refuse to use anything newer in bicycle technology then an S/A 3 speed hub with coaster brake on the rear and rod brake on the fronts, but has the latest in netbook computers, because it fits their needs.
Like Grant Peterson types that don’t so much prefer older technology, and may not even be familiar with old technology, but love the old timey romanticism and like to pretend that romanticism is somehow mechanically superior? We know they’re all on 4G networks.
That describes me — except that I’m on a GSM network. I like new computer hardware technology, but prefer old software (Unix and its clones like Linux are my all-time favorite operating systems) and old bikes. Heck, I’m even nostalgic for CP/M sometimes, and still have an old system that runs it packed away somewhere. My favorite programmable calculators? HP16C (1982), HP-41CX (1984) and HP-48GX (1996). I even have a collection of slide rules that I use on occasion.
@Widsith: CP/M? WOW!!!!! I haven’t heard tell of that OS in a loooooong time. Thanks!
Remember the CP/M editor? Editing commands looked like a string of random alphabet soup. And MS-DOS users thought EDLIN was cryptic.
I ride fixed gear almost exclusively. When I run geared it’s friction shifting and 7-speed freewheels. My cameras are 35mm. I like my steaks grilled on charcoal and my Bourbon neat. And I haven’t the slightest notion of this 4G whoosamafudge of which you speak.
What is this newfangled 7-speed freewheel of which you speak? Back when I was a kid, we had FIVE, and we were grateful. And every nation had their own special bottom bracket threading.
I still ride with a five-speed Suntour ProCompe freewheel.
I only found out about 5 speed hubs after my heart attack in 2006!
Until then, it was 3sp SA and 5sp derailleur.
Okay, after I ‘died’ my wife advised me to help a charity bike shop as I used to repair bikes apparently! I had lost all my memories, but working there and reading this strip has awakened most of my memories. Thanks Rick and everybody. I really appreciate the help. Keep up the good work… I am finally learning how to relate to people after a life of OCD and Dyslexic problems and the technical advice and WWW hints etc invaluable. Happy Xmas to all
Doc, you can’t hardly get five speed freewheels anymore, and I like a 34 tooth big cog. You’re looking at 7 speed for those. Hell, five out back would suit me fine if I could get my bailout gear. And keep in mind, I mostly ride fixed anyway. But I figure if I’m gonna run gears I want every advantage they can give me.
That’s why I am having a NuVinci and a Schlumpf on my Trandem. 6″ to 90″ in two ranges. Each range infinite,
That is IF the builder can get 22/40t CWs onto the Schlumpf working! 2-up we can pull like you do on your fixie, but alone I need to be able to get a heavy load up a few steep hills so the Mountain Drive gives me the option of a low gear that I can spin, slowly, without falling over (trike) 2011 looks like a very interesting time for us.
When I was 15 years old, dinosaurs roamed the earth and I bought a 5-speed Schwinn. Electro-forged in their Chicago factory.
I’ve still got the Schwinn and it works just fine, thank you. I still use it when going places that I really don’t want to lock up the Pashley overnight.
When I was 15 years old, dinosaurs hadn’t been invented.
When I was 15 YO Led Zeppelins ruled the skys.
I gave up chasing every new technology gnome many moons ago. Too damn expensive and not all that satisfying. I’m still upset over Kodak discontinuing Kodachrome (my last two rolls are in the soon to close process queue at Dwayne’s Photo <http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/>
. Other bad habits: analog vinyl, books (paper- and hard-back), hand-written letters, WinXP, and my ’97 T-Bird.
@Mongo- “and my Bourbon neat.”
Now I know why I like you.
You just brightened an old man’s day.
Who cares if you read bsnyc if you aren’t “first”
love the BSNYC plug! Can we get a Team Fatty one too?
I’m with Yann. I don’t think this is consistent with Yehuda’s character. He would consistently put Real Life ahead of the Internet and cycling ahead of almost everything else in Real Life.
Although I think that he is the sort that would read Yehuda Moon on the Internet.
I don’t think “real life” ever works its way into Yehuda’s decision making equation.
He’s got his own reality. In many ways it is much better.
For example, my reality is heavy %^#$@!! snow right now and a weather forecast for this week that has the daily highs in negative numbers every day.
By dint of ploughing and salting the roads, they remain free of ice and snow. So I’m still cycling to work every day. But that doesn’t mean that I like winter. Three months until spring…
Reality is overrated.
I hardly ever miss a Yehuda strip, but I’ll go a week without reading BSNYC
No RSS reader? Stuff pops up, I read it, while the bits are still warm.
Bike Snob NYC sits in my RSS reader. I used to let 2 or 3 collect before trying to slog through them. Then 5 or 6… 12 or 13…
Eventually the tally would go up to 25 or so before I would mark them as read without bothering to read them. I just checked, my Bike Snob feed unreads are are now at 14. Time to remove that feed.
Winter tour … tough guy!
Yehuda sounds like me every time I head out for church early on a cold Sunday morning. For the first mile or so of my 13.5-mile journey, I’m thinking, “If I turn back now, I can get a ride with my son and daughter-in-law.” But then I get warmed up nicely and think, “I wouldn’t trade this ride for any other kind of transportation.” Last week I got to ride through a perfect snowfall both there and back — the air around me was filled with beautiful snowflakes, but none of it stuck to the ground so I was able to ride as I would on any other day without worrying about slippery roads.
ayhsmb!
Lobster God be praised!
ant1st
Why should yehuda read bike snob NYC while there is a bike snob kickstand (Joe King) around?
the opinionated cyclist, is that you klove?