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08/07/2010 – Commuter Points and the Car

by Yehuda Moon on August 7, 2010 at 12:01 am
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  1. K'Tesh
    K'Tesh
    August 7, 2010 at 7:14 am | # | Reply

    Hey! I got AC and Heating for my bike… AC in winter, Heating in summer… It all works out in the end.

    • Obi..
      Obi..
      August 7, 2010 at 10:49 pm | # | Reply

      I’m still waiting for the day the shop has a power outage and Yehuda ends up working in a towel and boxer shorts.

      Yes, I said boxers, Yehuda wouldn’t fathom tighty whiteys?

  2. Zydeco
    Zydeco
    August 7, 2010 at 7:20 am | # | Reply

    Joe 1- Moon nil

  3. aditthegrat
    aditthegrat
    August 7, 2010 at 8:13 am | # | Reply

    Joe just remind me to Bike Snob.

  4. Syke
    Syke
    August 7, 2010 at 10:23 am | # | Reply

    One of the great truths of the universe: The bicycle is not the ultimate answer.

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      August 7, 2010 at 11:16 am | # | Reply

      you are asking the wrong questions obviously

    • jkelley73
      jkelley73
      August 7, 2010 at 12:44 pm | # | Reply

      The ultimate answer is “42″.  Obviously, then, the ultimate question is, “How many bikes does one person need?”

      • DanD
        DanD
        August 7, 2010 at 1:14 pm | # | Reply

        Except that the answer to that is always n+1 where n= current.  So 42 is only the answer if you currently have 41.

    • Xgecko
      Xgecko
      August 7, 2010 at 1:20 pm | # | Reply

      I think you are living in the wrong place

  5. Larey
    Larey
    August 7, 2010 at 11:37 am | # | Reply

    Yehuda should demand the Kickstand shop install showers and a decent locker room for bike commuters.. no, wait

    • JX75
      JX75
      August 8, 2010 at 7:37 pm | # | Reply

      I don’t have showers at work either and I’ve never been seen like Yehuda is… I wipe the sweat with the t-shirt I wear and I put on sme clean clothes that stay at my working place.

      BTW isn’t Yehuda living at the shop anyway ?

  6. Kevin Love
    Kevin Love
    August 7, 2010 at 11:50 am | # | Reply

    Being covered in road grime is totally preventable with proper fenders, chaincase and coatguard. 

    Do I get bonus “commuter points” for being car-free?

    • required
      required
      August 7, 2010 at 4:37 pm | # | Reply

      Good fenders help a lot, but some days you still get sprayed by cars and the bike in front of you. Especially in winter.   Chaincases just keep the chain clean.

      • Widsith
        Widsith
        August 8, 2010 at 1:48 am | # | Reply

        Sometimes I think fenders would be nice.  But then I’d have to give up using my Flickstand, and I just can’t bring myself to do that.

    • BentMikey
      BentMikey
      August 7, 2010 at 5:56 pm | # | Reply

      It’s called a Quest velomobile.  ;)

      • required
        required
        August 7, 2010 at 7:10 pm | # | Reply

        Neat, but it’s hard enough finding parking for a normal bike in Toronto :)

      • Tencon
        Tencon
        August 8, 2010 at 12:35 am | # | Reply

        I thought it was called a ‘Pashley’!

    • mongo
      mongo
      August 8, 2010 at 12:59 am | # | Reply

      Call it whatever you want. K-love has a motor on his so it’s not a bicycle. It’s not quite a motorcycle either. Truth is, he won’t nut up and declare himself one way or the other. And that’s just sad.

    • Capateto
      Capateto
      August 8, 2010 at 2:12 am | # | Reply

      Not totally preventable: if you’re not in a bike lane, or your bike lane puts you right next to moving vehicular traffic, a fair amount of road grime and puddle splash can make its way onto the unwary cyclist.

    • CDW
      CDW
      August 8, 2010 at 2:14 am | # | Reply

      Definitely, you get extra smug points for mentioning that you’re car free.

    • Chocostove
      Chocostove
      August 9, 2010 at 4:46 pm | # | Reply

      There is no such thing a no road grime ride in constant rain. Just minimized grime. And that’s with full fenders and mudflaps. Cars and road inconsistencies see to that. Mind you I’m not complaining, just saying…..

  7. johnb
    johnb
    August 7, 2010 at 12:32 pm | # | Reply

    I thought the strip had gone dormant because my RSS feed stopped a week ago. What happened? Anyone else see this?

    • Heather
      Heather
      August 7, 2010 at 1:31 pm | # | Reply

      There was a note about the RSS feed not being updated for a bit, I think it said Rick was out of town

  8. mongo
    mongo
    August 7, 2010 at 12:59 pm | # | Reply

    Obviously the soggy hippy believes the “haves” are not worthy and the “have nots” are. Marxist much?

    • Sister Heidi
      Sister Heidi
      August 7, 2010 at 1:04 pm | # | Reply

      I’m moving to Denver where the UN will soon be in charge and guys like you will be in FEMA camps under Denver International.

      • Unabiker
        Unabiker
        August 7, 2010 at 2:28 pm | # | Reply

        Why under? There’s plenty of vacant land right next to it. In fact if you vacate all the cars from the rent-a-car facilities, you have fenced in areas that would be perfect for detention and processing. (Remember to pronounce it with the strong “o” like Kevin). There must be 200 acres at least!

        • Sister Heidi
          Sister Heidi
          August 7, 2010 at 2:37 pm | # | Reply

          http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=58

          • Unabiker
            Unabiker
            August 7, 2010 at 5:30 pm | #

            Oooh! I love a good conspiracy site! Especially those that try to explains symbols!

    • Leroy
      Leroy
      August 7, 2010 at 3:44 pm | # | Reply

      monGo = tea bagger ;-)

      • Unabiker
        Unabiker
        August 7, 2010 at 4:58 pm | # | Reply

        I’m not what’s wrong with being a tea bagger. All of the signers of the Declaration were tea-baggers by definition.

        Assuming (yes I know that’s dangerous but let’s fly without a net here…) that being a “tea bagger” is to hold the beliefs of the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution as sacred to the governing of the USA, then we ALL should be tea baggers. Now if you enjoy “other” tea-bagging activities that’s none of my business.

        (pre-emptive reply) – The fringe elements of any group hurt the cause of said group.

        • Sister Heidi
          Sister Heidi
          August 7, 2010 at 5:21 pm | # | Reply

          @unabiker (What I think) is a minor clarification: the political philosophies and goals of the Constitution and Declaration are significantly different.

          • Unabiker
            Unabiker
            August 7, 2010 at 5:35 pm | #

            I can see your point… the Declaration was the divorce decree to England. The Constitution was forged from many, both similar and divergant, viewpoints. But the spirit of both is (what I belive) drives those who embrace the tea party movement. (not movement and not capital “P” Party).

        • SDMSS
          SDMSS
          August 7, 2010 at 6:14 pm | # | Reply

          Except that the tea party types like to pretend that the Declaration if Independence is a legally binding document that defines our laws, along with the Federalist Papers, which they do not; while paying lip service to 1st Amendment while have no respect for it whatsoever, not to mention trying to repeal the 14th Amendment.  It doesn’t sound to me like the tea party considers the Constitution particularly relevant, let alone sacred.

          And what the heck is up with trying to erase Thomas Jefferson from the American history books?  He wrote the Declaration that they love to overemphasize, but as soon as anyone points out that separation of church and state was his idea, the 1st Amendment haters heads explode.

    • Pashley-Moulton
      Pashley-Moulton
      August 7, 2010 at 6:54 pm | # | Reply

      Not Marxist at all. The bicycle, after legs, is probably the most democratic form of transport, because almost everyone can use it.

      • mongo
        mongo
        August 7, 2010 at 9:14 pm | # | Reply

        And any moron can get a driver’s license. So freakin’ what?

        • Pashley-Moulton
          Pashley-Moulton
          August 7, 2010 at 9:28 pm | # | Reply

          Any moron can get a driver’s licence where you live perhaps.

          • mongo
            mongo
            August 7, 2010 at 11:51 pm | #

            You drive? Thought so. Case closed.

          • Pashley-Moulton
            Pashley-Moulton
            August 8, 2010 at 11:40 am | #

            It is patent any moron can get a driver’s licence where YOU live. This is not so elsewhere in the world. Maybe you live in some anarchic part of the world where children are permitted to drive, Somalia maybe?

  9. mongo
    mongo
    August 7, 2010 at 1:16 pm | # | Reply

    They’d better get cracking. Your community organizer in chief will Jimmy Carter in 2012, and word is the American people are taking back Congress this very November.

    • Sister Heidi
      Sister Heidi
      August 7, 2010 at 1:58 pm | # | Reply

      I learn so much reading your comments.  I didn’t know someone had swiped Congress.  I’ve looked pretty diligently, and I don’t have it.  I didn’t see it at the track this morning.  Was it the Canadians?  I know they burned it once.  Did they take it this time?  Hate it when they do that.

      • Sister Heidi
        Sister Heidi
        August 7, 2010 at 2:00 pm | # | Reply

        BTW, it’s nice to see Jimmy Carter recognized for something, even if it does seem to be evil, master villain in chief.

        • Unabiker
          Unabiker
          August 7, 2010 at 2:23 pm | # | Reply

          Whoa! Wait a minute… when did Jimmy take over Google?

        • required
          required
          August 7, 2010 at 4:41 pm | # | Reply

          Jimmy Carter rides a Rivendell!

          http://www.flickr.com/photos/22432095@N03/2844653628/

          • SDMSS
            SDMSS
            August 7, 2010 at 6:17 pm | #

            “Jimmy Carter rides a Rivendell!”

            Oh Lord, it’s official.  Rivendell is completely irrelevent and stuck with its head in the clouds.

          • mongo
            mongo
            August 7, 2010 at 11:50 pm | #

            Yeah, but it was given to him. Typical liberal.

          • Tencon
            Tencon
            August 8, 2010 at 12:44 am | #

            I thought Rivendell was just across the river from the Shire!

          • Widsith
            Widsith
            August 8, 2010 at 3:05 am | #

            When I first began reading Tolkien’s books in the early ’70s I used to ride my bike to a bookstore to buy the books one at a time.  Then I’d ride through a wooded area to a nice, secluded spot on the bank of a river and sit there to read.  That area was like my own personal Shire back then.  Not long ago I looked up aerial photos of it on Mapquest and was very pleased to see that, although there’s development all around it, my own little Shire is still there, and there still appear to be bike trails through it.

      • Kevin Love
        Kevin Love
        August 8, 2010 at 1:12 am | # | Reply

        Sister Heidi, we burned the US Congress buildings as a reprisal for the Americans invading Canada and burning Toronto. 

        “The conquest of Canada will be a mere matter of marching.”  Thomas Jefferson, 1812

        • mongo
          mongo
          August 8, 2010 at 1:18 am | # | Reply

          And ever since, you’ve come to we Americans to bail out your sorry hoser asses.

    • SDMSS
      SDMSS
      August 7, 2010 at 2:48 pm | # | Reply

      “American people”  I love that, because if people don’t agree with you they’re not American.

      • Brookston John
        Brookston John
        August 7, 2010 at 4:51 pm | # | Reply

        Yeah, and “Freedom” means “Free to agree with ME, or yer a Commie!”

    • George
      George
      August 7, 2010 at 9:23 pm | # | Reply

      We should all remember the measure of respect mongo has earned here and value his pronouncements accordingly. I give them the same credence as a dog fart but, then, do tend to give the benefit of doubt.

  10. Erick
    Erick
    August 7, 2010 at 1:26 pm | # | Reply

    Mongo = Troll

  11. mongo
    mongo
    August 7, 2010 at 1:56 pm | # | Reply

    Wait a minute-”FEMA camps”? Are those like the ones your people put the Jews in before we Americans came along and liberated them?

    • Freddite
      Freddite
      August 7, 2010 at 3:50 pm | # | Reply

      There is a fine line between being a discussion group prankster/devil’s advocate and being an ass. I do believe you have crossed that line. I might also add that you have done so in a totally idiotic, insensitive, and unamusing manner.

      • mongo
        mongo
        August 7, 2010 at 8:53 pm | # | Reply

        Well thank God for that, Freddite. I’d hate to think my only purpose in this world was to amuse your sorry ass.

        • Satan
          Satan
          August 8, 2010 at 6:18 am | # | Reply

          Everyone else here may be feeding you with the responses you so desperately need, but you have a purpose. I’m waiting for you mongo.

    • Unabiker
      Unabiker
      August 7, 2010 at 5:00 pm | # | Reply

      Godwin’s Law.

  12. ranyu
    ranyu
    August 7, 2010 at 5:36 pm | # | Reply

    Right wing toxic pollution everywhere.  And always based in ignorance and hatred! Even on the comments page of a bicycle comic.

  13. Tee
    Tee
    August 7, 2010 at 8:40 pm | # | Reply

    Some of the very best, mindful, rewarding rides have been in the rain. :)

    • required
      required
      August 7, 2010 at 9:09 pm | # | Reply

      I’ve postponed rides because it wasn’t raining yet.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      August 7, 2010 at 11:14 pm | # | Reply

      And some of my worst rides have been in the rain, like the one home from the dentist after having 3 teeth pulled. (massive abcess related to broken teeth I got when I was hit with the truck)  That ride was no fun at all. The only saving grace it had was the temperature was just shy of 100 so the rain was warm, and the splash from the street was cool enough not to scald me. Did I mention I live in a suburb of Hell?

      • Widsith
        Widsith
        August 8, 2010 at 2:34 am | # | Reply

        My least pleasant ride took place on a cold, blustery day when I was in high school.  I was coming down with the flu, but had gone to school anyway because I didn’t want to miss a big math test.  As I was riding home (with a fever) I remembered an errand I really wanted to run and decided to do it even though it would add about two extra hours to my ride.  When I finally got home I practically collapsed into bed and was out of commission for several days.  My parents thought the long ride in the cold weather was what made me sick; I didn’t have the nerve to tell them that I was already sick before starting the ride.

    • Widsith
      Widsith
      August 8, 2010 at 2:24 am | # | Reply

      One of my most interesting rides ever was when I got caught in a flash flood in downtown Norfolk, Virginia, in 1974.  I set out from home in Portsmouth wearing a poncho because it was raining lightly.  By the time I had crossed the river into Norfolk it was raining so hard that it had overwhelmed the storm drain system and the downtown streets were flooded.  It was interesting (and fun!) to ride in water too deep for the cars to go, with my feet and pedals under water.  The riding was slow and difficult, like riding into a strong headwind, and the large, noisy whirlpools above the storm drains made me a bit nervous so I passed them with lots of clearance.  But it was quite an adventure, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, though I had to disassemble and regrease my hubs, bottom bracket and derailleurs the next day.

      • dr2chase
        dr2chase
        August 8, 2010 at 3:06 am | # | Reply

        This is the main downside of fancy hubs (internal-geared, dynamo) — I don’t like to think about what high water would do to them.  Otherwise, just tear down and rebuild.

        • weefoldingbike
          weefoldingbike
          August 8, 2010 at 6:28 am | # | Reply

          Current Sturmey Archer front hubs use normal “sealed” bearings.

          The back hubs have cup and cones. You don’t need to remove the internals to get at the bearings but it’s not hard to take it all out if you need to. You can do it with a hammer and punch or I’ve even got a big Sturmey Archer hook spanner for it.

    • JX75
      JX75
      August 8, 2010 at 7:41 pm | # | Reply

      Me too… It’s a bit like swimming: you don’t like entering the rain any more than you like entering the water, but once you’re inside it, it can be actually pleasant provided that the temperature is not freezing.

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