Oh I deleted my last comment, as I just realized I called Joe, Fred and well while he might be one that was just wrong… So yeah I want to see Yehuda win.
Deep down, I think *everyone* wants Yehuda to win. Personally, I think either it will be a draw or we will never know, but I *want* Yehuda to win! Inside my mind, he’s won already.
I’m surprised that Joe choose ‘Labor Day’. He doesn’t strike me as a Socialist. On the other hand, I think Yehuda might be a closet communist. Yehuda should be stoking towards Labor Day. Joe should be a red-blooded American and look toward the equinox.
—Matt
From Wiki:
Labor Day is a United States federal holiday observed on the first Monday in September. The holiday originated in 1882 as the Central Labor Union (of New York City) sought to create “a day off for the working man”.
The form for the celebration of Labor Day was outlined in the first proposal of the holiday
As an anarcho-pagan bicyclist, regardless of wikipedia says, May Day is recognized as the O.G. workers holiday, and it really got off the ground in the United States though yes, it also has a longer significance for us pagans as Beltane (try attending a May Day rally and Beltane ritual in one day!).
For radicals, Labor day is considered the watered down version as May Day has always been a rowdy, uncontrollable affair. (America’s culturally-protestant ruling class has always sought to water-down anything they view as too passionate and homey – See Samhain a.k.a. Halloween)
September 22 is Mabon, the Autumn equinox, goodbye Summer, hello Fall!!!
@tandemman – I don’t think so. She’s much more polite than the unseen speaker. Maybe it’s the GRAIL!!! But Joe won’t even know it since he’s never been close enough to see the mystery rider!
The communist thing to do would be to force everyone to ride a single size mild steel POS with no useful fittings. Ride it or face the gulag.
The box bike, on the other hand, is simply another choice in our vast capitalist market place. Claiming that it’s some commie ride sounds to me like a socialist plot to maintain the federally-subsidized-via-tax-break corporate order. Indeed, if a private citizen is concerned with conserving one’s own resources, why shouldn’t the efficient bakfiets be on the list of choices?
think yehuda is counting on the summer days drawing to a close and people stopping riding for sport, new students wanting cheap transport etc to put a last min rush on city bike sales.
The one problem with that thinking though is that bikes like van swernigans don’t follow model year mentalities, while sport/recreation bikes do, so end of season closeout sales might actually factor against Yehuda on the sales of road bikes relative to city bikes
Thistle would ask for information about clipless pedals, not demand to be sold some, post haste.
Does anyone else notice the irony of CLIPPING IN to clipless pedals, when the pedals that do not have clips are flats (with a few throwback exceptions, of course)
May Day was selected to honor the victims of the Hay market (Chicago, IL) riot, who were on strike for the 8 hour day. The US chose the first Monday in September to reduce the link to this event.
Gotta love the name “Van Sweringan” – cracks me up every time.
Re: “clipless” – Yes, Mirco, I am with you on the irony – always thought it was a silly name for them, requiring far more knowledge of arcane bike trivia than warranted. I go with flats- but then, what else would you expect of a Rivendell fan?
I think Yehuda knows his calendar, and wants to buy time. . .
Mirco: The opposite of clipless pedals aren’t flat pedals, but the ones with toeclips. Once you see them, you will instantly understand, why clipless is called clipless.
=v= May Day is the true labor day, celebrated by workers and those who purport to be on the side of workers (commies included). Labor Day is what we have in the U.S. to specifically avoid dealing with labor history in general, and May Day in particular. Its location on the calendar was chosen to sell backyard grilling supplies.
The Van Sweringen brothers were real estate moguls in Cleveland and especially instrumental in the history of the area where the Kickstand is located. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Sweringen_brothers
Cool Yehuda is pagan!
Yehuda just knows his calendar.
Going for symbolic or real? Hooray for the characters knowing their summer endings.
What happens if they tie?
It seems more likely Joe will win.
Oh I deleted my last comment, as I just realized I called Joe, Fred and well while he might be one that was just wrong… So yeah I want to see Yehuda win.
Yeah… summer ends when summer ends. Not based on a US holiday. I hope Yehuda wins…
Deep down, I think *everyone* wants Yehuda to win. Personally, I think either it will be a draw or we will never know, but I *want* Yehuda to win! Inside my mind, he’s won already.
I’m surprised that Joe choose ‘Labor Day’. He doesn’t strike me as a Socialist. On the other hand, I think Yehuda might be a closet communist. Yehuda should be stoking towards Labor Day. Joe should be a red-blooded American and look toward the equinox.
—Matt
@PBBT/M – I believe that you’re mixing up labor Day and May Day (aka International Workers Day) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers%27_Day
Actually, not me. I want Joe to win. Yehuda’s annoying sometimes. Reminds me of militant vegans. :p
And I don’t think Yehuda is a “closet” communist. Anyone who recommends a box bike is commie to the core.
@ Ride Rage Are you joking? I hope you are.
Ride Rage, I think you may be a little mixed up.
From Wiki:
Labor Day is a United States federal holiday observed on the first Monday in September. The holiday originated in 1882 as the Central Labor Union (of New York City) sought to create “a day off for the working man”.
The form for the celebration of Labor Day was outlined in the first proposal of the holiday
Union=Socialist? Don’t think so. I’m sticking with my earlier post.
What will happen if Yehuda is ahead on Labor Day, but Joe is ahead by the equinox?
The REAL question is WHO is buying clipless pedals? Could it be a certain box bike momma back in the shop?????
Dear Fellow Riders,
As an anarcho-pagan bicyclist, regardless of wikipedia says, May Day is recognized as the O.G. workers holiday, and it really got off the ground in the United States though yes, it also has a longer significance for us pagans as Beltane (try attending a May Day rally and Beltane ritual in one day!).
For radicals, Labor day is considered the watered down version as May Day has always been a rowdy, uncontrollable affair. (America’s culturally-protestant ruling class has always sought to water-down anything they view as too passionate and homey – See Samhain a.k.a. Halloween)
September 22 is Mabon, the Autumn equinox, goodbye Summer, hello Fall!!!
@tandemman – I don’t think so. She’s much more polite than the unseen speaker. Maybe it’s the GRAIL!!! But Joe won’t even know it since he’s never been close enough to see the mystery rider!
@Ride Rage
The communist thing to do would be to force everyone to ride a single size mild steel POS with no useful fittings. Ride it or face the gulag.
The box bike, on the other hand, is simply another choice in our vast capitalist market place. Claiming that it’s some commie ride sounds to me like a socialist plot to maintain the federally-subsidized-via-tax-break corporate order. Indeed, if a private citizen is concerned with conserving one’s own resources, why shouldn’t the efficient bakfiets be on the list of choices?
think yehuda is counting on the summer days drawing to a close and people stopping riding for sport, new students wanting cheap transport etc to put a last min rush on city bike sales.
Zarniwoop, I think you’re right on the money…
The one problem with that thinking though is that bikes like van swernigans don’t follow model year mentalities, while sport/recreation bikes do, so end of season closeout sales might actually factor against Yehuda on the sales of road bikes relative to city bikes
Everyone always expects the grail. He may never show up. That’s why he’s the grail.
Could be Thistle, but I agree that this customer seems a bit rude.
Thistle would ask for information about clipless pedals, not demand to be sold some, post haste.
Does anyone else notice the irony of CLIPPING IN to clipless pedals, when the pedals that do not have clips are flats (with a few throwback exceptions, of course)
May Day was selected to honor the victims of the Hay market (Chicago, IL) riot, who were on strike for the 8 hour day. The US chose the first Monday in September to reduce the link to this event.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_Riot
(I am not related to George or Michael)
Folks, he calls himself “Ride Rage” and stirs things up with accusations. You’re arguing with an anarchist.
Gotta love the name “Van Sweringan” – cracks me up every time.
Re: “clipless” – Yes, Mirco, I am with you on the irony – always thought it was a silly name for them, requiring far more knowledge of arcane bike trivia than warranted. I go with flats- but then, what else would you expect of a Rivendell fan?
I think Yehuda knows his calendar, and wants to buy time. . .
Mirco: The opposite of clipless pedals aren’t flat pedals, but the ones with toeclips. Once you see them, you will instantly understand, why clipless is called clipless.
Tobi
=v= May Day is the true labor day, celebrated by workers and those who purport to be on the side of workers (commies included). Labor Day is what we have in the U.S. to specifically avoid dealing with labor history in general, and May Day in particular. Its location on the calendar was chosen to sell backyard grilling supplies.
http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.history a timeline and photo gallery of bicycle pedals
The Van Sweringen brothers were real estate moguls in Cleveland and especially instrumental in the history of the area where the Kickstand is located. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Sweringen_brothers