Same with mine Alec – it is the right way to adjust the saddle. Not a lot of angle, but enough to help us ‘centre’ our bum on the seat instead of sliding forwards or back. Too much lift in the front can be painful!
To each his own, of course. My Surly Big Dummy was shipped with a WTB saddle, and it’s never been installed. When I ordered my Big Dummy, I ordered a Brooks B-67 for it.
Need my WTB saddle for your other bike? I’ll sell this one.
I already have a WTB saddle but if anyone is interested in barely used B17 Imperial (with cutout), black, plus the Brooks maintenance kit email me at adam at a-world.net.
One of the rivets had sharp edges (must be legendary Brooks quality…) so I had to file it off a little but you can’t tell and no damage to the leather was done.
Yep. Same here. This seat angle is quite common for Brooks saddles. Other saddles I owned previously would have been unbearably uncomfortable set up like that, but with the Brooks it’s just right.
Same here. Both my B.67 and B.72 need to be raised with horn up a bit before I’m not sliding off. Other cyclists have commented, but it feels just fine to me.
My Selle Anatomica rides comparatively more level.
Re: Adam and paintbikedog’s comments – IMHO after using a Brooks since about 1967, It needs us to suffers a little bit until our body becomes accustomed to the shape, but then it will serve you for the rest of your life
I got overzealous in my ‘adjusting’ my first Brooks and stretched it past comfort. I ruined it in less than 3 years. My current Brooks has been very comfortable with no adjustment for over 30 years…
Adjustment is simple, slacken the fastening a tiny bit and sit on it. You should be able to tap it up and down etc until the position is just right. If you are sliding forward then tilt it up or down if sliding back. Don’t forget to tighten it properly when finished. Just hard enough that it doesn’t revolve in any direction under usual riding loads. Bear in mind that a heavy saddlebag, if fitted, may cause it to tilt up so must be considered part of the ‘usual riding load’
The seating area of a saddle is to be visually level, with the base measurement made using a spirit level. Based on subtleties of saddle design and requirements of comfort, the saddle may then be pitched slightly forward or backward to reach a position that offers stability, power, and comfort. If the tilt of the saddle exceeds two degrees, you need to go get one of those saddles with springs and a thick gel pad because you are obviously …
Why you supposed it is a brooks saddle??
My guest is that Yehuda´s bike is a randoneur, which he get in a France long long time ago in a trip around europe. So the saddle it is probably an “ideale”. Or maybe the bought an lepper when he went to Holand.
You’re correct that its not a Brook’s, but I am pretty sure that it’s an Adga (cheap french leather). Original to the Peugeot’s, though I am not sure how/why Yehuda would have one
Why do you supposed it is a brooks saddle??
My guest is that Yehuda´s bike is a randoneur, which he get in France long long time ago in a trip around Europe. So the saddle is probably an “ideale”. Or maybe the bought a lepper when he went to Holland ( spelling corrected sorry)
Saddle angle is as important as height, and just as custom. Women, for instance, have completely different preferences for saddle angle because they’ve got the flesh somewhat differently distributed, so different “squish points.” Personally I like a wide butt with minimal nose tilted up just enough to brace my pubic bone against it. Nothing scandalous about it, it’s just a way of bracing myself on the bike. Done wrong and I’m constantly sliding back and forth unable to maintain my spot steadily, or my seat bones compress and I get nasty saddle sores if the angle is wrong too. I really don’t understand why you’d criticize (tease?) over it.
My wand is going numb just looking at that saddle tilt. Maybe Brooks are different. I’ve tried them a few rides, not enough to get past the part where my rear end “breaks in” to work with the saddle.
Every bike I have with a Brooks saddle (which is currently 4) has the saddle slightly nose up. For me, it keeps me from feeling like I’m sliding off. After breaking in my first Brooks B17, which was the two weeks it took for me to get used to riding with my sit bones on the leather rather than on some padding, I’ve not had any other “break in” issues on any of the other bikes.
This is a common “problem” in our community bike shop!
I love the detail of the seat… This isn’t a comic strip… It’s Art!
did the same thing with my brooks, otherwise it felt like i was sliding off
Same with mine Alec – it is the right way to adjust the saddle. Not a lot of angle, but enough to help us ‘centre’ our bum on the seat instead of sliding forwards or back. Too much lift in the front can be painful!
The best thing I’ve done with my Brooks saddle: replaced it with a WTB saddle.
The best things _I’ve_ done with my Brooks saddle: purchased it, applied some Proofide, and began riding with it the next day!
To each his own, of course. My Surly Big Dummy was shipped with a WTB saddle, and it’s never been installed. When I ordered my Big Dummy, I ordered a Brooks B-67 for it.
Need my WTB saddle for your other bike? I’ll sell this one.
I already have a WTB saddle but if anyone is interested in barely used B17 Imperial (with cutout), black, plus the Brooks maintenance kit email me at adam at a-world.net.
One of the rivets had sharp edges (must be legendary Brooks quality…) so I had to file it off a little but you can’t tell and no damage to the leather was done.
This is my second and last Brooks saddle.
Yep. Same here. This seat angle is quite common for Brooks saddles. Other saddles I owned previously would have been unbearably uncomfortable set up like that, but with the Brooks it’s just right.
Love my Brooks BTW.
I have been riding my Brooks for a year, I have this problem but never thought of trying a little tilte. I’ll need to give this a try on my way home.
I did rise the nose. It puts too much pressure then on my perineum, even the B17 with cutout in the middle. It just doesn’t work for some people well.
Same here. Both my B.67 and B.72 need to be raised with horn up a bit before I’m not sliding off. Other cyclists have commented, but it feels just fine to me.
My Selle Anatomica rides comparatively more level.
Re: Adam and paintbikedog’s comments – IMHO after using a Brooks since about 1967, It needs us to suffers a little bit until our body becomes accustomed to the shape, but then it will serve you for the rest of your life
I got overzealous in my ‘adjusting’ my first Brooks and stretched it past comfort. I ruined it in less than 3 years. My current Brooks has been very comfortable with no adjustment for over 30 years…
Adjustment is simple, slacken the fastening a tiny bit and sit on it. You should be able to tap it up and down etc until the position is just right. If you are sliding forward then tilt it up or down if sliding back. Don’t forget to tighten it properly when finished. Just hard enough that it doesn’t revolve in any direction under usual riding loads. Bear in mind that a heavy saddlebag, if fitted, may cause it to tilt up so must be considered part of the ‘usual riding load’
Happy riding…
Great strip, but curiously irrelevant to me. I’ve got a deck-chair….
http://poweroncycling.com/product/inspired-cycle-engineering-ice-trice-q-675.htm
Me too … and I get flak from “experts” all the time, though I’ve seen other Brooks saddles with a lot more extreme … um, arousal.
Looks like ti rails on the brooks, so Yehuda is a closet weigh wennie!
I was thinking it was the copper rails, an option on some Brooks models.
It’s an A.M. saddle…
Is that a saddle in your pocket?
Looks like a B17 Special in black with copper plated frame.
My seat looks like that on my lowrider BMX bike I have.
Please refer to rule 48: http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#48
The seating area of a saddle is to be visually level, with the base measurement made using a spirit level. Based on subtleties of saddle design and requirements of comfort, the saddle may then be pitched slightly forward or backward to reach a position that offers stability, power, and comfort. If the tilt of the saddle exceeds two degrees, you need to go get one of those saddles with springs and a thick gel pad because you are obviously …
That is the douchiest list of rules.
So make up your own.
My only rule would be “No rules”. I don’t care what someone else’s bike look likes. Its transport not a fashion statement.
That list is a joke… in case you haven’t noticed
The rules would be douch-ey if they were serious…..
…..but I think it is pretty obvious they are not.
Why you supposed it is a brooks saddle??
My guest is that Yehuda´s bike is a randoneur, which he get in a France long long time ago in a trip around europe. So the saddle it is probably an “ideale”. Or maybe the bought an lepper when he went to Holand.
You’re correct that its not a Brook’s, but I am pretty sure that it’s an Adga (cheap french leather). Original to the Peugeot’s, though I am not sure how/why Yehuda would have one
Why do you supposed it is a brooks saddle??
My guest is that Yehuda´s bike is a randoneur, which he get in France long long time ago in a trip around Europe. So the saddle is probably an “ideale”. Or maybe the bought a lepper when he went to Holland ( spelling corrected sorry)
Saddle angle is as important as height, and just as custom. Women, for instance, have completely different preferences for saddle angle because they’ve got the flesh somewhat differently distributed, so different “squish points.” Personally I like a wide butt with minimal nose tilted up just enough to brace my pubic bone against it. Nothing scandalous about it, it’s just a way of bracing myself on the bike. Done wrong and I’m constantly sliding back and forth unable to maintain my spot steadily, or my seat bones compress and I get nasty saddle sores if the angle is wrong too. I really don’t understand why you’d criticize (tease?) over it.
At least he doesn’t have his bike equipped with a gun. @Larry- see – you’re not the only one to get it! Now peel me a grape…
My wand is going numb just looking at that saddle tilt. Maybe Brooks are different. I’ve tried them a few rides, not enough to get past the part where my rear end “breaks in” to work with the saddle.
So what gender is his bike?
Must be a male.
Every bike I have with a Brooks saddle (which is currently 4) has the saddle slightly nose up. For me, it keeps me from feeling like I’m sliding off. After breaking in my first Brooks B17, which was the two weeks it took for me to get used to riding with my sit bones on the leather rather than on some padding, I’ve not had any other “break in” issues on any of the other bikes.